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    C650GT 6 Months On

    I traded in my 2009 BMW R1200RT SE in April this year for a new C650GT as I needed something with a feet forward riding position to prevent the pains in my knees and hips on long trips. It has been a great success and the only thing I really miss is the cruise control.
    The rear suspension needed immediate improvement as BMWs stated maximum load (180kg) is wildly optimistic. With this weight on board the centre stand grounded easily. The only aftermarket units readily available is a Wilbers 630, but these have not been TUV tested with a hydraulic preload adjuster and so are only available mechanical adjusters. A C spanner must be used to adjust the standard double castellated ring, difficult on a GT. After consultation with Wilbers Germany, a worm drive adjuster is also available than can be accessed without removing the GTs panels and operated with an 8mm speed brace. As I frequently adjust the preload twice a week in summer, an easy method of adjustment was essential. 100 turns of the brace are required to increase the preload by around 10mm.
    The bike has the following mods:
    SVA (side view assist) disabled due to numerous false warnings.
    Garmin 595LM and Autocom SPA fitted.
    2 direct battery 10amp power sockets fitted under the seat for, battery charging, heated clothing and tyre compressor use.
    Shad SH58X expandable top box fitted, very useful as it folds down when a big box is not required.
    Kaoko throttle stabilizer fitted, this required the stem reducing by 2mm to locate the friction washer correctly on my handlebar grips.
    BMW tunnel bag, easily removable on tour to keep valuable items with you.
    The OEM Metzler tyres started their usual “white lining” at 3000 miles and have been replaced with a set of Mitchelin Road Pilot 4s, I expect these to provide consistent handling up to their wear limit.

    The only problems with the bike in 4000 miles have been a faulty oil level sensor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve l View Post
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    The OEM Metzler tyres started their usual “white lining” at 3000 miles and have been replaced with a set of Mitchelin Road Pilot 4s, I expect these to provide consistent handling up to their wear limit.
    What is white lining
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    Wonderful review of the journey. I think you implied you have NOT had the rear shock replaced yet. Is that correct? I am curious about a different rear shock solution as well. And of course - I would love a cruise control.

    Interesting to hear the warning tech. is not ready for prime time. I wish I could simply get a mirror extension to see better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justscootin View Post
    What is white lining
    Yeah, I have the same question. For us here in New York, "White Lining" is another term for "Lane Splitting."
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    Well I did some "research" with google:

    http://www.triumphrat.net/air-cooled...and-tires.html
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    My explanation of “White Lining” would be a tyres tendency not to track correctly when crossing white lines. This gives a disconcerting wiggle to the back wheel.

    The rear shock has been replaced with a Wibers 630, as far as I can tell this is the only option available short of a full custom-made unit. Wilbers fit a spring matched to your weight and usage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve l View Post
    The rear shock has been replaced with a Wibers 630,
    Do you notice a ride improvement feeling with the Wilbers? (beyond weight capacity)? Smoother? Etc. I'm curious about what a "nice" shock would change.
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    The Wilbers shock did not provide a noticeable improvement beyond the ability the carry 2 people and luggage, however, my riding style is more touring than race. We plan a trip to northern Spain next year including the Picos de Europa mountains, Leon and Santiago de Compostela.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve l View Post
    The Wilbers shock did not provide a noticeable improvement beyond the ability the carry 2 people and luggage, however, my riding style is more touring than race. We plan a trip to northern Spain next year including the Picos de Europa mountains, Leon and Santiago de Compostela.

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    Thank you for the info and the pics - same here with riding style - 2-up touring. My GT suspension feels comfortable till I ride one of the bigger siblings with the fancy suspensions that can make it feel like you're riding on glass: super smooth. I'm not unhappy but wondered if there was some upgrade available.
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    When you order the Wilbers, you should be able to specify your weight, your potential passenger's weight and the kind of riding you do and they'll build it to your specs. That's they way I ordered the Ohlins for my K1200LT. Unfortunately, Ohlins doesn't make a shock for the BMW "C" series. The other advantage to the Wilbers is that it is rebuildable. When it wears out, you send it out to be rebuilt for considerably less money than throwing out the stock Showa and replacing it with another stock Showa. With my K1200LT the difference in price is DRAMATIC. Replacing the rear Showa would be over $1,000.00 whereas rebuilding the Ohlins is usually around $200.00.
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