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    Scooter/Motorcycle Transition

    After 400,000 miles and over 50 years on motorcycles, I’ve decided to slow down a bit but continue to ride. My problem is overcoming the automatic “grab the clutch” response when stopping. Hopefully it will fade in time, but it’s a real problem in trying to transition to my 650GT. Any other long time riders out there that have figured out how to ignore 50 years of “clutch”

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    I went the other way, from a C650GT to a R1200RT. After a couple hundred miles I adapted to the clutch on the left.

    Previously I had done lots of bicycle racing/riding so I was used to the idea of front/rear brakes on the handlebars.

    I think after some time you will be fine. There are differences in how you use the brakes and throttle on a CVT vs manual bike. Feathering the throttle and using the rear brake on the CVT are more like the friction zone on a bike with a clutch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bicyclenut View Post
    I went the other way, from a C650GT to a R1200RT. After a couple hundred miles I adapted to the clutch on the left.

    Previously I had done lots of bicycle racing/riding so I was used to the idea of front/rear brakes on the handlebars.

    I think after some time you will be fine. There are differences in how you use the brakes and throttle on a CVT vs manual bike. Feathering the throttle and using the rear brake on the CVT are more like the friction zone on a bike with a clutch.


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    It's all about muscle memory. Shifting was not a problem - it was when rolling up to a stop. After you have grabbed the "clutch" a couple of times at a stop light/sign, it helps to burn it into your brain that things have changed. Now I have no issues even switching back and forth between scooter and motorcycle.

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    For me, clutch, gear shifting, foot brake and not reving the engine with clutch pulled were an issue, but only for a short period (couple months). I do miss "riding the clutch" to control slow speeds in first to still be an issue since the CVT is more difficult to engage "just a little". I found the scoot's higher center of gravity to be more of an issue still...sometimes I miss my Harley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Davis View Post
    ..sometimes I miss my Harley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Davis View Post
    For me, clutch, gear shifting, foot brake and not reving the engine with clutch pulled were an issue, but only for a short period (couple months). I do miss "riding the clutch" to control slow speeds in first to still be an issue since the CVT is more difficult to engage "just a little". I found the scoot's higher center of gravity to be more of an issue still...sometimes I miss my Harley.
    Try applying the rear brake lightly with a little throttle. I find that works to help with the on/off behavior of the CVT at low speeds.

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    Thanks, I'll give it a try

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