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2025 Model

No rumors yet, but typically the refresh announcement is made on June 30 of each year. My guess is a new color and minor firmware update. If we are lucky, an improved seat and taillight design. Assuming their usual refresh cycle, I wouldn’t expect any major changes until 2027 In the earliest.
 
While it is absolutely true that CE 04 sales in the US are minimal, they seem to be selling well in the EU & Turkey. I can’t find any global sales stats, but I’d be willing to bet the CE 04 is the top selling electric two-wheeler in the 400cc+ class. BMW has offered an electric scooter in the US since 2017, so I don’t expect them to pull out either.

That said, this segment is absolutely dwarfed by the market for smaller EV’s. The top manufacturers in this space don’t sell in the US at all.
 
While it is absolutely true that CE 04 sales in the US are minimal, they seem to be selling well in the EU & Turkey. I can’t find any global sales stats, but I’d be willing to bet the CE 04 is the top selling electric two-wheeler in the 400cc+ class. BMW has offered an electric scooter in the US since 2017, so I don’t expect them to pull out either.

That said, this segment is absolutely dwarfed by the market for smaller EV’s. The top manufacturers in this space don’t sell in the US at all.
"top selling" over gas models NO WAY..... for those who can afford it anywhere in the world it is a luxury/premium item that most are not buying due to its ev status, they buy it because its "different" and they can?? they only reason it will stay avail in the usa is due to the all its big brothers, no big deal to add one or two to a container for shipping, with less then 300 units sold since inception in the usa it IS NOT making them any profit.... the usa will NEVER be an EV leader or top seller for any model, we are and NEVER will be structured for it, and that you can take to the bank!!??
 
"top selling" over gas models NO WAY..... for those who can afford it anywhere in the world it is a luxury/premium item that most are not buying due to its ev status, they buy it because its "different" and they can?? they only reason it will stay avail in the usa is due to the all its big brothers, no big deal to add one or two to a container for shipping, with less then 300 units sold since inception in the usa it IS NOT making them any profit.... the usa will NEVER be an EV leader or top seller for any model, we are and NEVER will be structured for it, and that you can take to the bank!!??
I think you may have overlooked a word in the post from @triangletom, as he asserted that it was the "top selling electric two-wheeler in the 400cc+ class." Or maybe I misunderstood your response.
 
I think you may have overlooked a word in the post from @triangletom, as he asserted that it was the "top selling electric two-wheeler in the 400cc+ class." Or maybe I misunderstood your response.
no you are correct i was generalizing.... but even to say it is best in class for an ev does not say much as that class as a whole is minuscule...
 
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