comfort turn signal

Terry

New member
I have a 2023 c400gt with TFT Display, how do you turn off the comfort turn signal? in the manual I see it accessible in multifunctional display, but not the TFT display, maybe I'm just not seeing it ?
Thanks Terry
 

Terry

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yes its a self can-celing turn signal , I was on my scooter today riding and it is active, I cant seem to find how to disable it on my TFT display , if you had a multifunction display you can, if this is one of there key upgrades to a 2023 model you think you could access it ? Thanks Terry
 

byee

Active member
Gotcha! My 2019 C400GT has self cancelling turn signals. I remember reading in the manual mentioning the dealer can modify tye settings

Good luck!
 

Terry

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Thank you , I talked to my local dealer and he said that when I bring it in for my 600 mile servicing, he will see if he can access it , maybe a firmware update? Hopefully we can get some nice weather here in iowa to get that mileage on it ! 😀😀
Thanks again Terry
 

toria

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I have a 2023 c400gt with TFT Display, how do you turn off the comfort turn signal? in the manual I see it accessible in multifunctional display, but not the TFT display, maybe I'm just not seeing it ?
Thanks Terry
I find these very annoying and, in my view, unsafe as the indicators don't stay on long enough, even if you long-press the switch. You can get the code changed/removed so the length of time they flash is increased or they can be switched off completely - I'm hoping to get that done this week as they're driving me nuts and I don't feel safe with them auto-cancelling. I don't think it's a firmware update because when I asked about this previously they said BMW won't do a firmware update 'off the cuff' on request so to speak and will only do when 'they' feel one is needed - I gather it's just a question of changing a code but we as owners cannot access the option, go figure! I think we as the riders/owners know how we feel safe or not, seeminly typical BMW and this, amongst other niggles, makes me wonder/regret why I bought my current bike!
 

wspollack

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I find these very annoying and, in my view, unsafe as the indicators don't stay on long enough, even if you long-press the switch. You can get the code changed/removed so the length of time they flash is increased or they can be switched off completely - I'm hoping to get that done this week as they're driving me nuts and I don't feel safe with them auto-cancelling. I don't think it's a firmware update because when I asked about this previously they said BMW won't do a firmware update 'off the cuff' on request so to speak and will only do when 'they' feel one is needed - I gather it's just a question of changing a code but we as owners cannot access the option, go figure! I think we as the riders/owners know how we feel safe or not, seeminly typical BMW and this, amongst other niggles, makes me wonder/regret why I bought my current bike!
First off, I agree with you.

Second, it's not just BMW, though. For instance, I bought a new Victory Cross Country Tour in 2012 (sold in 2017). It had self-canceling turn signals, too. There was an algorithm that varied the cancellation based on speed, distance, and maybe some other factors, and I often found that it canceled the signals earlier than I would like. And there was no way that the owner or a shop could disable this "feature."

On that bike and my current '22 C 400 GT, this means that the rider has to pay MORE attention to the turn signals, not LESS, in order to make sure they stay on until you actually turn or change lanes. I would much rather just turn on the signals, and let me worry about making sure that I turn them off.
 

toria

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First off, I agree with you.

Second, it's not just BMW, though. For instance, I bought a new Victory Cross Country Tour in 2012 (sold in 2017). It had self-canceling turn signals, too. There was an algorithm that varied the cancellation based on speed, distance, and maybe some other factors, and I often found that it canceled the signals earlier than I would like. And there was no way that the owner or a shop could disable this "feature."

On that bike and my current '22 C 400 GT, this means that the rider has to pay MORE attention to the turn signals, not LESS, in order to make sure they stay on until you actually turn or change lanes. I would much rather just turn on the signals, and let me worry about making sure that I turn them off.
I completely agree with you re us being able to worry about turning them off - they certainly cancel too soon and yes, I realise that this is not only a BMW feature, don't worry - I could only speak for my bike of course. How do you enjoy your GT? Do you have a top-case on yours? The on-board storage is laughable compared to my old, missed and much loved Burgie 650!! Ride safe my friend.
 

wspollack

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I completely agree with you re us being able to worry about turning them off - they certainly cancel too soon and yes, I realise that this is not only a BMW feature, don't worry - I could only speak for my bike of course. How do you enjoy your GT? Do you have a top-case on yours? The on-board storage is laughable compared to my old, missed and much loved Burgie 650!! Ride safe my friend.
I've owned two Execs: a 2007, from 2007 - 2012, and a 2008, from 2016 - 2022! My Big Burger gallery is here:


Much as I enjoyed those 650s -- and I did enjoy them, or I wouldn't have gone back for a second helping -- I don't miss them, with the C 400 GT in the garage.

I introduced myself here: https://www.bmw-scooters.com/index.php?threads/new-c400gt-owner-albany-ny-area-may-2022.2460/ . That explains why I got the 400. Since then, I have really appreciated the 400 for:

- The handling. Best handling bike I've owned.

- The light weight. About 140lbs. less than an Exec.

- The smoothness. Not the smoothest bike I've ever owned, but surprisingly good, and certainly not objectionable.

- The quickness. Not the quickest bike I've ever owner, but surprisingly quick.

- I think it's a sharp-looking bike.

What I find objectionable:

- No TPMS option, and the stupid sideways placement of the Schrader valves prevents adding an external sensor to the front wheel (I have a FOBO sensor on the rear).

- No factory cruise. With throttle-by-wire and umpteen sensors, I would think it would be trivial to add cruise.

What I find disappointing:

- Limited underseat storage, as you mention, especially compared to the cavernous Big Burgers. Sure, the flex case is nice, but what if I want more storage when the bike is NOT parked?

- The stretch-out-yer-legs room is a little less than that of a Big Burger. Still, I pretty much got over that, most of the time.

- On the My Vehicle screen, I would like the image of the scoot removed and the tach included. The only way to see the RPMs is to use the Urban screen, with its very limited display.

- That I'm out of action for a few weeks, at least. See my post from a couple of days ago, https://www.bmw-scooters.com/index.php?threads/c-400-gt-it-appears-that-i-have-a-coolant-leak.2722/

Still, if the bike were stolen or wrecked, I'd get another one!

My GT gallery -- farkles and such -- is here:


You can see there that I have the factory rack and top case. That's an expensive and small combination, but you can't take it with you. And, more importantly, as I noted in my introductory post, my wife liked the same backrest pad on the C 400 X we rented, so I couldn't mess with success. In my daring thought experiments, I am still considering getting the adjustable (and much larger) Shad top case, which seems to offer functional padding (as opposed to the useless POS of a pad that you can get with Givi top cases, for instance).

You might be interested in some of my ride highlight-reel videos -- before I was side-lined last week. I have some in this thread, for example:


I think that covers your questions.
 

Al.

New member
I just picked up a new C400GT. I have also looked for the self cancellation adjustment in the total system, nothing. Anyone know the latest software version.

Alas sad to also report I got rid of my CE04. Its a great bike, but not really built for Scottish weather.. I commute rain, sun or snow.. I got sick of error messages.
 

mzflorida

Active member
I just picked up a new C400GT. I have also looked for the self cancellation adjustment in the total system, nothing. Anyone know the latest software version.

Alas sad to also report I got rid of my CE04. Its a great bike, but not really built for Scottish weather.. I commute rain, sun or snow.. I got sick of error messages.
Off topic...but sorry to hear about the CE04. It seems that all EV manufacturers have chosen the Microsoft launch strategy of launching betas as commercial ready products. Repeats over and over again; though I hear Tesla has it kind of worked out.
 

mzflorida

Active member
I just picked up a new C400GT. I have also looked for the self cancellation adjustment in the total system, nothing. Anyone know the latest software version.

Alas sad to also report I got rid of my CE04. Its a great bike, but not really built for Scottish weather.. I commute rain, sun or snow.. I got sick of error messages.
It is an available option in my 23 GT...settings>vehicle settings>Lights>Comfort turn signals. If you want them off, use the selector wheel and press to the right unchecking the checkbox on the right of the prompt and the text to the right reads "on." The text on the right provides you with the option that is available for the function, so when "on" is displayed the comfort turn signals are off. When "off" is displayed, the comfort signals are on, and the prompt is telling you that the option available is to turn them off.
 

toria

New member
I just picked up a new C400GT. I have also looked for the self cancellation adjustment in the total system, nothing. Anyone know the latest software version.

Alas sad to also report I got rid of my CE04. Its a great bike, but not really built for Scottish weather.. I commute rain, sun or snow.. I got sick of error messages.
I don't know where you're based but if you're in the UK and have a BMW dealership near you, you can go to them and they will change the code for the self cancelling indicators to stop them doing this – I had this done and I feel so much safer on my bike. It's worth £30. I have the 2022 model if that helps – I don't know if they've updated the bikes this year to include this as a user option.
 
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