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I need help, I locked my keys in the under-seat storage and can't find my spare key, how can I open the seat without a key? Update to my Request for help.
I was able to work out how to get the seat unlocked without a key!
 
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chummy said:
I need help, I locked my keys in the under-seat storage and can't find my spare key, how can I open the seat without a key? Update to my Request for help.
I was able to work out how to get the seat unlocked without a key!
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Please let me know if you have the answer . I have the same problem
 
Wish I had a helpful solution but I don't.

I will offer two suggestions that can help others. I don't offer them to scold or pile-on the two previous posters. I feel badly for them. I'd probably end up towing the bike to a dealer and have them yank out the ignition and re-key it, at significant expense.

Suggestion #1: Always have a second key somewhere. Never maintain a bike or car with one key.

Suggestion #2: Never ever, not once, set your keys in the trunk. Never. It's same as putting your hand on a red hot stove burner. Would you do that? Of course not, you would never do that. Not once. Putting the keys in the trunk requires the same mentality.

I've been tempted many times. It's convenient. "I'll just set them down for a sec and -- SLAM." The trunk falls closed and you're screwed. It took time to train myself. Many times I'd start to set the keys in the trunk and stop myself and pull them back and say, "Nope, that's not an option. We don't do that."

One other rule I follow unfailingly is not related to keys but may help spare someone from an accident. Cars turning in front of motorcycles is the #1 cause of motorcycle accidents and fatalities. It happens every week of every year.

Because of that, I never, ever, not once, take for granted that a car turning in front of me sees me and will let me pass. I never trust that turning car and just keep speeding down the road, daydreaming. Nope, my eyes are laser-focused on that turning car. I treat it like, "this is the one. This is a collision, and I have to avoid it." I do that every single time. Kind of a PITA, honestly, but I'd rather guarantee my safety than get caught by a sudden car turn that could be painful and possibly lethal.
 
Delray said:
Wish I had a helpful solution but I don't.

I will offer two suggestions that can help others. I don't offer them to scold or pile-on the two previous posters. I feel badly for them. I'd probably end up towing the bike to a dealer and have them yank out the ignition and re-key it, at significant expense.

Suggestion #1: Always have a second key somewhere. Never maintain a bike or car with one key.

Suggestion #2: Never ever, not once, set your keys in the trunk. Never. It's same as putting your hand on a red hot stove burner. Would you do that? Of course not, you would never do that. Not once. Putting the keys in the trunk requires the same mentality.

I've been tempted many times. It's convenient. "I'll just set them down for a sec and -- SLAM." The trunk falls closed and you're screwed. It took time to train myself. Many times I'd start to set the keys in the trunk and stop myself and pull them back and say, "Nope, that's not an option. We don't do that."

One other rule I follow unfailingly is not related to keys but may help spare someone from an accident. Cars turning in front of motorcycles is the #1 cause of motorcycle accidents and fatalities. It happens every week of every year.

Because of that, I never, ever, not once, take for granted that a car turning in front of me sees me and will let me pass. I never trust that turning car and just keep speeding down the road, daydreaming. Nope, my eyes are laser-focused on that turning car. I treat it like, "this is the one. This is a collision, and I have to avoid it." I do that every single time. Kind of a PITA, honestly, but I'd rather guarantee my safety than get caught by a sudden car turn that could be painful and possibly lethal.
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All good stuff.

BTW, to get you up to date, my '22 C 400 GT came with only one fob from the factory (and I imagine trying to order a second one would be $400 or $500, something like that). I don't know whether you can technically lock this key under the seat or in a cubby -- both cubbies and the seat are electro-mechanically controlled -- or whether the system prevents you from doing that (for instance, on my car, pressing an area in the door handle -- the usual way to lock it -- won't work if the fob is inside the car). I'm not about to chuck the fob under the seat, to test things out.
 
wspollack said:
for instance, on my car, pressing an area in the door handle -- the usual way to lock it -- won't work if the fob is inside the car
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My Prius has the same feature. It helps when the manufacturers idiot-proof such things.

I wonder if one key (fob) is a trend with new vehicles? Any CE 04 owners want to chime in?

The 2003 Silver Wing I bought up in Plattsburgh this summer came with one key for the bike and one for the GIVI Monokey case. It was easy to duplicate the Honda key, but I had to schlep to three Rochester locksmiths to get the GIVI key made. It was worth it for the peace of mind.
 
I hope this will help, I'm probably guessing but since the seat latch is cable operated, you may be able to take the cover off below the ignition switch exposing the cable connection to the switch body.
Then you maybe able to manually pull the cable to release the seat latch.
 
chummy said:
I need help, I locked my keys in the under-seat storage and can't find my spare key, how can I open the seat without a key? Update to my Request for help.
I was able to work out how to get the seat unlocked without a key!
Click to expand...
Glad you solved your problem. I suggest that everyone install a seat release. Just attach a light cord or heavy fishing leader directly to the latch mechanism, so that pulling the cord or leader opens the latch. Bring the end of the cord outside the seat. It's unlikely that a casual observer will realize that the cord or leader is a seat release. I did this on my Burgman, and now on my C650GT.
 
Delray said:
Wish I had a helpful solution but I don't.

I will offer two suggestions that can help others. I don't offer them to scold or pile-on the two previous posters. I feel badly for them. I'd probably end up towing the bike to a dealer and have them yank out the ignition and re-key it, at significant expense.

Suggestion #1: Always have a second key somewhere. Never maintain a bike or car with one key.

Suggestion #2: Never ever, not once, set your keys in the trunk. Never. It's same as putting your hand on a red hot stove burner. Would you do that? Of course not, you would never do that. Not once. Putting the keys in the trunk requires the same mentality.

I've been tempted many times. It's convenient. "I'll just set them down for a sec and -- SLAM." The trunk falls closed and you're screwed. It took time to train myself. Many times I'd start to set the keys in the trunk and stop myself and pull them back and say, "Nope, that's not an option. We don't do that."

One other rule I follow unfailingly is not related to keys but may help spare someone from an accident. Cars turning in front of motorcycles is the #1 cause of motorcycle accidents and fatalities. It happens every week of every year.

Because of that, I never, ever, not once, take for granted that a car turning in front of me sees me and will let me pass. I never trust that turning car and just keep speeding down the road, daydreaming. Nope, my eyes are laser-focused on that turning car. I treat it like, "this is the one. This is a collision, and I have to avoid it." I do that every single time. Kind of a PITA, honestly, but I'd rather guarantee my safety than get caught by a sudden car turn that could be painful and possibly lethal.
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That is why I ALWAYS install a loud horn on every new bike!!!
VW high frequency horn is loud and compatible with BMW electrical system.
 
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