scoot rider
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Hi, new to the forum, my question is, can you or has anyone added cruise control to there BMW C400GT? Thanks!!
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wspollack
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If you mean a throttle lock, I've added Wunderlich's version:
Throttle Lock, C400 GT/X
Check out the deal on Throttle Lock, C400 GT/X at wunderlichamerica.com
www.wunderlichamerica.com
If I had to do it over again, I would pass on that model -- nicely machined as it is -- primarily because it turns the "wrong" way to lock in the throttle grip, i.e., it moves forward at the top, while your wrist is moving backward at the top, as you ramp up to your desired speed.
Instead, I'd look at Kaoko's version:
BMW C400X ('18-'22) | Cruise Control | KAOKO
Kaoko motorcycle cruise control for the BMW C400X ('18-'22). Significantly reduces wrist fatigue & allows smoother throttle control.
This is a little more finicky to install to a certain tolerance, but I believe it moves the correct way, with its big knobs in sync with the throttle. I didn't know about this when I bought the Wunderlich.
If you mean an actual cruise control, I installed a vacuum-operated MC Cruise (https://www.mccruise.com/en-us) in 2007 on my Suzuki Burgman 650 scooter. That's an Australian company, still in business, but it doesn't make a cruise for the C 400 bikes.
I think it's a shame, a serious omission, an insult to owners, and so on, by the way, that BMW did not see fit to offer an actual cruise control on the C 400 GT, despite the bike's having throttle-by-wire, a lot of sensors already in place (for ABS, speedometer, etc.), and despite BMW's offering cruise on most of its other bikes. You call that a Grand Tourer? Seems to me it would have been trivial, in terms of effort and cost.
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scoot rider
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If you mean a throttle lock, I've added Wunderlich's version:
Throttle Lock, C400 GT/X
Check out the deal on Throttle Lock, C400 GT/X at wunderlichamerica.comwww.wunderlichamerica.com
If I had to do it over again, I would pass on that model -- nicely machined as it is -- primarily because it turns the "wrong" way to lock in the throttle grip, i.e., it moves forward at the top, while your wrist is moving backward at the top, as you ramp up to your desired speed.
Instead, I'd look at Kaoko's version:
BMW C400X ('18-'22) | Cruise Control | KAOKO
Kaoko motorcycle cruise control for the BMW C400X ('18-'22). Significantly reduces wrist fatigue & allows smoother throttle control.kaoko.com
This is a little more finicky to install to a certain tolerance, but I believe it moves the correct way, with its big knobs in sync with the throttle. I didn't know about this when I bought the Wunderlich.
If you mean an actual cruise control, I installed a vacuum-operated MC Cruise (https://www.mccruise.com/en-us) in 2007 on my Suzuki Burgman 650 scooter. That's an Australian
I think it's a shame, a serious omission, an insult to owners, and so on, by the way, that BMW did not see fit to offer an actual cruise control on the C 400 GT, despite the bike's having throttle-by-wire, a lot of sensors already in place (for ABS, speedometer, etc.), and despite BMW's offering cruise on most of its other bikes. You call that a Grand Tourer? Seems to me it would have been trivial, in terms of effort and cost.
Hi Bill, thanks for the reply, I am not a fan of throttle locks, but thanks for taking the time to post your recommendations, I to am really surprised they don't off it, hopefully maybe on a newer model in a few years, it sure would be nice! Take care, ride safe!!If you mean a throttle lock, I've added Wunderlich's version:
Throttle Lock, C400 GT/X
Check out the deal on Throttle Lock, C400 GT/X at wunderlichamerica.comwww.wunderlichamerica.com
If I had to do it over again, I would pass on that model -- nicely machined as it is -- primarily because it turns the "wrong" way to lock in the throttle grip, i.e., it moves forward at the top, while your wrist is moving backward at the top, as you ramp up to your desired speed.
Instead, I'd look at Kaoko's version:
BMW C400X ('18-'22) | Cruise Control | KAOKO
Kaoko motorcycle cruise control for the BMW C400X ('18-'22). Significantly reduces wrist fatigue & allows smoother throttle control.
This is a little more finicky to install to a certain tolerance, but I believe it moves the correct way, with its big knobs in sync with the throttle. I didn't know about this when I bought the Wunderlich.
If you mean an actual cruise control, I installed a vacuum-operated MC Cruise (https://www.mccruise.com/en-us) in 2007 on my Suzuki Burgman 650 scooter. That's an Australian company, still in business, but it doesn't make a cruise for the C 400 bikes.
I think it's a shame, a serious omission, an insult to owners, and so on, by the way, that BMW did not see fit to offer an actual cruise control on the C 400 GT, despite the bike's having throttle-by-wire, a lot of sensors already in place (for ABS, speedometer, etc.), and despite BMW's offering cruise on most of its other bikes. You call that a Grand Tourer? Seems to me it would have been trivial, in terms of effort and cost.
mgg
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Hi scoot rider:
If your bike is a 2023 or newer there is a company looking at making an electronic cruise for our scooters. They work on bikes by demand so the more demand the sooner they will get to it.
If you are interested in adding cruise I would go to there website and send them a message. I think they have a few who are interested including me.
Strick
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I just sent veridian cruise a request for a cruise control for a 2024 BMW C400GT!
HandleScars
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I emailed them as well. Unfortunately, I don't know about y'all, but I got a response that indicated basically "we're gonna do the easier bikes first and BMW is too proprietary for now." I think that's code for probably not gonna happen. 
wspollack
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Hey, you never know. Can you imagine, 50 people a day, walking in, singing a bar of Alice's Restaurant, and walking out? They'd think it's movement ...I emailed them as well. Unfortunately, I don't know about y'all, but I got a response that indicated basically "we're gonna do the easier bikes first and BMW is too proprietary for now." I think that's code for probably not gonna happen.
Er, um, I mean, maybe we'll get lucky, and they'll get around to it before we all have other powered-two-wheelers. I like to be optimistic, so thanks for the effort you made.
NMdesertracer
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Sent them a email I think were #1 for the BMW's. Also Atlas makes locks for the GT
atlasmoto.com
BMW Motorcycles - ATLAS Throttle Lock
The ATLAS Throttle Lock was built for adventure and motorcycle touring. Are you still wondering why BMW didn't put cruise control on your motorcycle? Well, stop thinking about it, get an ATLAS, and go ride. The Top Kit ATLAS was designed specifically for pre-2013 BMW motorcycles with right-hand...
atlasmoto.com
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mgg
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I have tried several mechanical cruise controls over the years. The only one I liked was the Breakaway. What I like about this one is that all you have to do is grab the break to unlock it. It's a safety thing. (I had an Atlas once and it did not have that feature maybe they do now?) But even with that, unless you are traveling on level ground you are constantly fiddling with the throttle. The beauty of an electronic cruise control is that you don't have to fiddle with your throttle.Sent them a email I think were #1 for the BMW's. Also Atlas makes locks for the GT
BMW Motorcycles - ATLAS Throttle Lock
The ATLAS Throttle Lock was built for adventure and motorcycle touring. Are you still wondering why BMW didn't put cruise control on your motorcycle? Well, stop thinking about it, get an ATLAS, and go ride. The Top Kit ATLAS was designed specifically for pre-2013 BMW motorcycles with right-hand...
Amazon.com: 7CP02 BrakeAway Motorcycle Cruise Control For Sport Models : Automotive
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Jack Herbst
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I have the Atlas on my 2022 C400GT. It is the best. Little pricey but well worth it. You can leave it locked and still adjust the throttle to any position and it will stay.Sent them a email I think were #1 for the BMW's. Also Atlas makes locks for the GT
BMW Motorcycles - ATLAS Throttle Lock
The ATLAS Throttle Lock was built for adventure and motorcycle touring. Are you still wondering why BMW didn't put cruise control on your motorcycle? Well, stop thinking about it, get an ATLAS, and go ride. The Top Kit ATLAS was designed specifically for pre-2013 BMW motorcycles with right-hand...
wspollack
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We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.
1) I had an Atlas on my second Burgman 650 for a few years. It was installed by the Atlas folks themselves, one year at their booth at the Americade rally (which is about an hour's ride north of my house).
One day, out riding with my wife as passenger, part of the Atlas came apart, somehow. I found this out when I went to use the front brake: the fixed part of the Atlas had rotated, such that it prevented the front brake lever from being pulled in very much.
This was a very dangerous situation, and I pulled over, off the road, shortly thereafter, saw what was happening, and made some emergency alterations. The next day, at home, I removed it completely and threw it in the trash.
I think the Brake-Away is a much safer throttle lock, although setting it up requires a lot more work. That's a throttle lock that disengages when you pull in the front brake lever.
I have experience with the Brake-Away because it came installed from the previous owner when I purchased that Burgman. After a bit, I removed it and sold it, because I was planning on installing a true cruise control (but ran into some issues, never got around to finishing that project, and so had the Atlas installed).
On my current C 400 GT, I have a Wunderlich throttle lock. It's okay for what it is, but if I had to do it again I'd probably get the Kaoko; that one is more fiddly to set up, but rotates in what I think is the proper direction to lock it.
2) More generally, I've found throttle locks okay for giving your right wrist a rest, but that's about it. As I've stated, I'm familiar with several throttle locks, on several bikes.
On the other hand, I added true cruise control on my first Burgman 650 back in 2007, purchasing the unit from the Australian company MC Cruise. I used -- and enjoyed -- that for five years.
In 2012, my Victory Cross Country Tour came with true cruise from the factory. I used and enjoyed that for five years, too.
About once a year I do a long, multi-state, multi-day, interstate-highway trip. When I want to go, say, 72 mph, I want to go 72 mph. Throttle locks can't do that, as you frequently encounter downgrades, upgrades, a CVT adjusting itself even on level ground, etc.
The vast majority of the time I spend on two wheels is on backroad day trips, when I'm just goofing off, enjoying the scenery and enjoying the twisties. On those, I wouldn't use cruise control if I had it. But on those long trips -- or even on the 15-20 miles I may spend on an interstate even on day trips -- I would certainly like it. And once set, I don't want to be constantly fiddling with it (or, if using a throttle lock that is left to its own devices, changing speeds by five or six mph on typical grades).
Hence, I'm hoping Veridian comes through. Given the low priority Veridian has stated for the C 400, it looks bleak for that happen while I'm still above ground, but that's what I thought about adding internal TPMS sensors to the C 400, and that recently came to pass.
In any case, that's my position.
mgg
Active member
My experiance with the Breakaway and Cruise control on my Indian Challenger and when I used them is very similar to yours. I also tried several throttle locks on my Indian Scout, and the only one I would purchase today is the Breakaway. But I am holding out for true crusie if it becomes available.
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KingRichard46
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I just installed the Kaoko CCF137 that 'fits' the 2019 C400x after messaging Kaoko that no vendors were listing 2025's yet and they said the CCF137 should work , and it did! No problems with instructions nor usage. I bought mine several weeks ago from Twisted Throttle on-sale for $50 off. But now TT has them listed for $90 off. Hurry, they are revising their mission plans and getting rid of all products not in the new plan.
HalfPriceGerman
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Thanks for the heads up! I just ordered one for $72. It went down another $8 overnight. I liked the design and look of the Wunderlich way more, but I couldn't pass up this deal and save $100. Based on wspollack's insight, I think the Kaoko might even be the better option, but I'm a sucker for beautiful design. Hopefully I don't regret it, but it was only $72. Side note - The Twisted Throttle checkout process is sketchy. It looks like it is a website from before the Dot Com bubble burst.