Fine "Real World Urban" Comparison
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Oldscoot
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When the tester, who is a motorcycle guy and works for a motorcycle publication, spends his first minutes being teased and acting defensively about riding a "sports scooter" the outcome becomes predictable. Many of us have ridden and owned real motorcycles and we know the difference. Throw a leg over the tall bikes wearing a suit and see what happens. Get stuck in stop and go traffic for an hour or two and tell me how much fun the clutch really is. Let a scooter magazine run the test and the outcome would likely differ. Just sayin'.
Edumakated
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I liked the review. However, I think the comments section on youtube and some of the quips in the video show the immaturity of a lot of motorcycle riders. I don't get why having a CVT or DCT makes a bike not a real motorcycle. The fascination with needing a manual transmission is just funny to me. The scoot was designed for urban mobility. Shifting in the city SUCKS. I see bikers around here all the time and most barely make it out of 3rd gear, so what is the point? I also don't get the $10k for a "scooter" quips. I mean it ain't a freaking Honda Metro. It is a BMW. Sexy as hell. 60hp. ABS. heated grips/seat. Can do 100mph without trying. Personally, I thought it was a bargain, particularly when you consider my Vespa cost $7k out the door at 1/3 of the horsepower and none of extras I get on the BMW.
The review would have been better though if they really tested it out for true urban riding. Potholes. Dodging cabs. Parking. Acceleration at stop lights. Hard braking. Flicking it around. Comfort.
I'm happy with mine. My co-worker bought a c600 too a few weeks after I got mine and he saw how much I liked it.
The review would have been better though if they really tested it out for true urban riding. Potholes. Dodging cabs. Parking. Acceleration at stop lights. Hard braking. Flicking it around. Comfort.
I'm happy with mine. My co-worker bought a c600 too a few weeks after I got mine and he saw how much I liked it.
AZ Tee Jay
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I just like when "they" compare apples to oranges and the apple hangs in there.
I certainly had a choice with my $10K and even though I've have had many motorcycles (and fond memories), I chose to truly enjoy flying down the road and quit worrying about impressions. Cool thing is, on my BMW, I can do both!
I certainly had a choice with my $10K and even though I've have had many motorcycles (and fond memories), I chose to truly enjoy flying down the road and quit worrying about impressions. Cool thing is, on my BMW, I can do both!
SteveADV
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I guess I forgot to factor in any coolness factors when I bought my GT. I just wanted a bike that was well made, comfortable and easy as hell to ride and maneuver, and could get me up to highway speeds in a flash. The slightly greater storage was a bonus big enough to persuade away from the C600 (which I also REALLY liked), but either is everything I was looking for.
AZ Tee Jay
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I'm only 5'9" so the GT was I little wide for me to comfortably reach the ground.
And I only want my wife to "so" comfortable on the back.
I got the BMW trunk to deal with the storage issue so, overall, I'm thrilled!
And I only want my wife to "so" comfortable on the back.
I got the BMW trunk to deal with the storage issue so, overall, I'm thrilled!
I agree with Oldscoot. When I got my first Burgman in 03 I got all the ribbing about why buy that and not a real bike. Well I have had a real bike that had to have a top box just to store my helmet and gloves when not riding. The GT gives me back the storage and convenience I had with the Burgman.
Having the storage and all the other things that come with the BMW plus the quality of the ride, I find it well worth the money. I paid over 18K out the door for a real bike and out the door for under 12K for the GT. Plus I like the GT better than a real bike.
I am also 5'9" had the seat reworked in Jonesboro, Indiana. It is dished out with a jell pad and narrowed to get my foot down. Now I do not have to slide forward to get my foot down and don't slide off the front of the seat. It is also good from fuel stop to fuel stop a little over 3 hours without a problem. When the seat fits the bike feels better. The stock seat was almost correct I just had it fine tuned.
In this day and age I do not want to shift gears but I know I am not a real rider because I do not shift gears. One day you will have to special order a gear shift. The air pollution requirements in the future will eliminate shifting gears all will have a form of CVT to meet the regulations which will require the engines to run at optima efficiency.
Having the storage and all the other things that come with the BMW plus the quality of the ride, I find it well worth the money. I paid over 18K out the door for a real bike and out the door for under 12K for the GT. Plus I like the GT better than a real bike.
I am also 5'9" had the seat reworked in Jonesboro, Indiana. It is dished out with a jell pad and narrowed to get my foot down. Now I do not have to slide forward to get my foot down and don't slide off the front of the seat. It is also good from fuel stop to fuel stop a little over 3 hours without a problem. When the seat fits the bike feels better. The stock seat was almost correct I just had it fine tuned.
In this day and age I do not want to shift gears but I know I am not a real rider because I do not shift gears. One day you will have to special order a gear shift. The air pollution requirements in the future will eliminate shifting gears all will have a form of CVT to meet the regulations which will require the engines to run at optima efficiency.
Skutorr
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Got that right! Passenger cars and light and medium-duty trucks are all coming with automatic transmissions. The rationale used to be it was CHEAPER with a manual; the automatic was a luxury item...like air conditioning. That's all reversed now. better mileage is achieved with the windows closed and AC on, and the computer can optimize the gear range for efficiency with an automatic. CVT's are now in Nissan Altimas and other cars. Honda is leading the Bike Evolution with lower-revving, higher-efficiency fully automatic bikes. THAT is the future.
bill steele
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I have rode with a group of people where most of them had motorcycles, It seemed that the younger riders had the motorcycle mentality that if you didn't shift the bike you where not riding a proper bike. The older riders thought that the BMW was a great bike because of the storage, looks, gas mileage and ease of riding (not having to shift) and cost, the older people that thought the bike was cool all had shifting bikes and wanted to know where I bought mine and are looking to buy there own scooter.
bill steele
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It just goes to show you the BMW is the best Pizza delivery bike of the three
JaimeC
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But this is the best Pizza Deliver bike of all time:\
Domino's Pizza Safe Sound - Menselijk motorgeluid voor elektrische scooter - YouTube
JaimeC
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I wish they ran that comparison in New York City in August. 90% humidity, stifling heat, and bumper-to-bumper traffic for MILES. Where you are NOT allowed to split lanes either. I think the guy on the Versys would've just cried "Uncle."
I know I did. That's the main reason I traded in my Buell 1125R for a TMAX a couple of years back and why I upgraded to the C650GT rather than back to a conventional motorcycle.
I know I did. That's the main reason I traded in my Buell 1125R for a TMAX a couple of years back and why I upgraded to the C650GT rather than back to a conventional motorcycle.
justscootin
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It sure ain't the best pizza (may be one of the worst)