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Change of heart.

JaimeC

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I bought a single-cup Hamilton Beach coffee maker for my desk and needed to transport it from my home to the office yesterday. No way would the box fit in either my K1200LT, or in my preferred commuter bike these days; the Zero S. The box fit PERFECTLY under the seat of the C650GT.

While I was riding it to the office I remembered exactly why I bought it in the first place. The ease of dealing with congested traffic without a clutch, and the available storage. I didn't buy it as a "backup" bike for the K1200LT (though it CAN and has served that purpose, and is the one thing I CAN'T easily do with the Zero), I bought it for commuting.

I also replaced the TMAX with it because the TMAX's electrical system couldn't handle a heated jacket and heated grips, let alone a heated seat. Also, in the winter especially, the ABS comes in VERY handy. And then I remembered that although the Zero could handle the heated jacket, any additional load on the electrical system will limit the total range, and according to the owner's documentation, the range in cold weather is already reduced.

So, I've decided NOT to replace the C650GT. I'll keep it for those occasions when it makes more sense to use it than the other two bikes in the garage. The extra maintenance the CVT requires is less of an issue if it isn't being used as often as I have in the past. Belts, sliders, chains and clutches don't wear out unless they're actually being USED, after all. Likely in the winter the Zero will remain parked most of the time and if the roads are clear (ie: not covered in ice and/or snow) I'll be nice and toasty warm on the C650GT.

An addendum: We got our latest electric bill. Despite having the Zero on the charger every time it is in the garage, and despite the fact we've run the air conditioner inside the house almost non-stop the past month, we STILL produced more electricity to the grid with our solar panels that we used. Our bill indicated we are now running a credit with the electric company. :)
 
Hey Jaime, glad to hear you got things figured out! I'm retired and would like to stay that way which is one of the reasons I traded the scoot, cost of maintaining. I like the f800gt, there was a post on the 800 forum about how hard it is to get on the centerstand, had to chuckle! I still like this site and will stay in touch. Paul
 
I bought a single-cup Hamilton Beach coffee maker for my desk and needed to transport it from my home to the office yesterday. No way would the box fit in either my K1200LT, or in my preferred commuter bike these days; the Zero S. The box fit PERFECTLY under the seat of the C650GT.

While I was riding it to the office I remembered exactly why I bought it in the first place. The ease of dealing with congested traffic without a clutch, and the available storage. I didn't buy it as a "backup" bike for the K1200LT (though it CAN and has served that purpose, and is the one thing I CAN'T easily do with the Zero), I bought it for commuting.

I also replaced the TMAX with it because the TMAX's electrical system couldn't handle a heated jacket and heated grips, let alone a heated seat. Also, in the winter especially, the ABS comes in VERY handy. And then I remembered that although the Zero could handle the heated jacket, any additional load on the electrical system will limit the total range, and according to the owner's documentation, the range in cold weather is already reduced.

So, I've decided NOT to replace the C650GT. I'll keep it for those occasions when it makes more sense to use it than the other two bikes in the garage. The extra maintenance the CVT requires is less of an issue if it isn't being used as often as I have in the past. Belts, sliders, chains and clutches don't wear out unless they're actually being USED, after all. Likely in the winter the Zero will remain parked most of the time and if the roads are clear (ie: not covered in ice and/or snow) I'll be nice and toasty warm on the C650GT.

An addendum: We got our latest electric bill. Despite having the Zero on the charger every time it is in the garage, and despite the fact we've run the air conditioner inside the house almost non-stop the past month, we STILL produced more electricity to the grid with our solar panels that we used. Our bill indicated we are now running a credit with the electric company. :)
Love it. I know every bike has issues but it is hard to pass on the practically of scoots. Glad you're hanging around Jaime.

Paul you should create a thread on this forum for those of us interested in how it compares to the scoots.
 
In case some of you missed it, I did test ride the F800GT at the BMW MOA National in Hamburg last month. I came away disappointed. Ergonomically, it is a good fit and handles very nicely. I was surprised at how sluggishly it accelerated from a stop; surprising since it is an 800cc motorcycle after all. And once up to speed, the vibration in the handlebars was just too much. I REALLY wanted to like the bike, and my original plan was to trade in the C650GT for it. I'm glad I took that ride yesterday and cleared my head. :)
 
Nothing like a ride to clear ones' head. Don't get me wrong folks, I loved my sport, storage, no shifting, weather protection, heated seat for cryin out loud! Just time for something different.
 
Nothing wrong with something different, Paul. That's the primary reason I end up with too many bikes in the garage.:D




....An addendum: We got our latest electric bill. Despite having the Zero on the charger every time it is in the garage, and despite the fact we've run the air conditioner inside the house almost non-stop the past month, we STILL produced more electricity to the grid with our solar panels that we used. Our bill indicated we are now running a credit with the electric company. :)

Super impressive!
 
So far, I really love my C650GT. I looked at a F800GT, but I didn't really care for the seat config. Next year, I may revisit the R1200RT, but I'll have to decide which kidney I can live with out!! :D
 
Electric bikes are very tempting. As soon as I can take one on an all day ride, I will have one.
I am surprised they haven't been faired to increase high speed mileage.
 
Electric bikes are very tempting. As soon as I can take one on an all day ride, I will have one.
I am surprised they haven't been faired to increase high speed mileage.

The more expensive ones do (check out the Lightning LS-218 if you ever hit the lottery). I'm surprised the aftermarket hasn't stepped up. But maybe they still consider the market too small.
 
Well yeah, the scooter market in the US is pretty tiny and an electric scooter is a miniscule part of the scooter market. Ergo, not many around and little reason for manufacturers to be interested in building them. At least not in the US and Canada.
 
Although, every once in a while I see a write up of an electric scooter from start-ups, a couple I would get for around town, if they ever started making them.
 
Don't know much about electric scooters other than BMW is out of their ever-loving MINDS with what they're asking for theirs... but I did manage 92 miles in one day of MOSTLY highway riding a couple of weeks ago with my Zero. Parked it in the garage with the battery meter reading "00%" and two miles left in the range read out. First time I ever experienced "Range Anxiety." I usually park it with more than 20% battery remaining.

That was with the stock 13 kWh battery. If I opted for the "Power Tank" I would've had even more range, but at the expense of more weight placed up high; exactly where I DON'T want it. I'm THINKING of the "Charge Tank" as public J1772 stations are more numerous than I originally thought but right now, "slow charging" overnight in the garage is working out just fine.
 
Me2 on keeping my C650GT. This replaced my Harley Road Glide. The 650 will outperform the Harley in every aspect. The only thing the Harley had that I miss is a "real" cruise control. Another reason I'm keeping the scoot is because I'm probably married to it. There is not another in Oregon that I've seen. The BMW dealer in Eugene hasn't even ordered one for the showroom. I doubt I could give it away. I did just get the new brake cable under recall and while in the shop some poor guy came in with his front BMW tire in his hand and asked the service rep if they could find a reason for his tire loosing pressure. "Sure we'll take a look. Our labor rate is $125/hr with a minimum of $50 to put it in a tank of water". Hope I never need service.
 
There are a few down here in Southern Oregon. We have a good dealer here, Hansen's BMW. Prices are good, service excellent. My '13GT had some teething problems which they took care of quickly. Friendly folks who do you right. I can't say the same for the Honda/Kawasaki dealer here in town though.
 
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.... Hope I never need service.

Well, if you do need service (or, more precisely, when you do), you are in the right spot to get some help. While I am definitely not one of them, there are a group of folks here that know not only the theory but also the practical application of nearly all stuff "motorcycle". There are some discussions that take place that just make me grin at how much some guys know.
 
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