NEW C400GT BREAK-IN QUESTIONS-NEED ADVICE

[tasosgds]

Hello everyone, 2 days ago I finally received my new C400GT. Very happy about it so far.

Question:

For the first 1000km, what should my average RPM be, and what should the max be?
Let's say that I 'd like to travel a 10km distance, 100km/h speed limit, straight road mostly.
Is 5.000-5.500 RPM fine, or is it too high to ride constantly? If I want to perform an overtake, is it ok if I go up to 6.500 RPM?
If I want to drive a longer distance up to 50km, same rules apply?

Thanks in advance

 

[wspollack]

Hello everyone, 2 days ago I finally received my new C400GT. Very happy about it so far.

Question:

For the first 1000km, what should my average RPM be, and what should the max be?
Let's say that I 'd like to travel a 10km distance, 100km/h speed limit, straight road mostly.
Is 5.000-5.500 RPM fine, or is it too high to ride constantly? If I want to perform an overtake, is it ok if I go up to 6.500 RPM?
If I want to drive a longer distance up to 50km, same rules apply?

Thanks in advance

It’s all in the owner’s manual.

As I recall:

- Keep the revs under 7000? I remember that if you accelerate gently, on a level road, whatever that rev limit was you can get the bike up to 70 mph.

You can see the revs on the URBAN display, by the way.

- Vary the speed.

- Take hilly roads.

I think that was it. Not any big deal, as long as you’re gentle with the throttle.

 

[tasosgds]

It’s all in the owner’s manual.

As I recall:

- Keep the revs under 7000? I remember that if you accelerate gently, on a level road, whatever that rev limit was you can get the bike up to 70 mph.

You can see the revs on the URBAN display, by the way.

- Vary the speed.

- Take hilly roads.

I think that was it. Not any big deal, as long as you’re gentle with the throttle.

Thanks!
I get it. My friend’s XMAX manual advised to keep under 5.000 revs so that seemed weird. How come BMW allows for 7000?

I am gentle with the throttle, 3-4 times I had to do do some quick/steep movement so it went max to 6500 RPM. Is that ok if it happens rarely?

Thanks

 

[wspollack]

Thanks!
I get it. My friend’s XMAX manual advised to keep under 5.000 revs so that seemed weird. How come BMW allows for 7000?

I am gentle with the throttle, 3-4 times I had to do do some quick/steep movement so it went max to 6500 RPM. Is that ok if it happens rarely?

Thanks

Here's the relevant page from the owner's manual:



As I remembered (I'm back at home now), the max break-in revs is 7000 rpm. So your occasionally hitting 6500 is no problem.

And as I mentioned -- I have done this break-in procedure and initial service twice now, once on a '22 C 400 GT and once on its replacement '23 C 400 GT -- you can get up to around 70 mph (113 kph) if you have a long, level, straight, by gently increasing the throttle for awhile, i.e., without exceeding the break-in rev limit.

So the break-in procedure is really not much of a hindrance, not much of a nuisance, on the C 400 bikes. (By contrast, the break-in procedure for my '23 Royal Enfield Meteor 350 specified max speeds per gear that are just above lugging the engine, and which I could almost walk faster in the lower gears.)

As with any new bike (or new car), you want to vary the speeds as much as possible, without pinning the throttle. And that varying is why they want you to twisties and hills, as much as possible during this period.

Last, as I mentioned, the URBAN setting on the TFT is the only way to show the revs, i.e., that display has only a speedometer and a tach. So just leave the bike in the URBAN setting during this period, because observing the tach will keep you from going crazy with the throttle.

And don't overthink this. 7000 is a pretty high limit, and all you have to do to avoid it is not twist the throttle all the way as quickly as you can.

 

[tasosgds]

Here's the relevant page from the owner's manual:

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As I remembered (I'm back at home now), the max break-in revs is 7000 rpm. So your occasionally hitting 6500 is no problem.

And as I mentioned -- I have done this break-in procedure and initial service twice now, once on a '22 C 400 GT and once on its replacement '23 C 400 GT -- you can get up to around 70 mph (113 kph) if you have a long, level, straight, by gently increasing the throttle for awhile, i.e., without exceeding the break-in rev limit.

So the break-in procedure is really not much of a hindrance, not much of a nuisance, on the C 400 bikes. (By contrast, the break-in procedure for my '23 Royal Enfield Meteor 350 specified max speeds per gear that are just above lugging the engine, and which I could almost walk faster in the lower gears.)

As with any new bike (or new car), you want to vary the speeds as much as possible, without pinning the throttle. And that varying is why they want you to twisties and hills, as much as possible during this period.

Last, as I mentioned, the URBAN setting on the TFT is the only way to show the revs, i.e., that display has only a speedometer and a tach. So just leave the bike in the URBAN setting during this period, because observing the tach will keep you from going crazy with the throttle.

And don't overthink this. 7000 is a pretty high limit, and all you have to do to avoid it is not twist the throttle all the way as quickly as you can.

All clear. Thank you so much! I do have the manual and it’s only in German, and I don’t speak it. I found it online in English and I saw it too. Thanks for your help

 

[tasosgds]

Here's the relevant page from the owner's manual:

View attachment 4708

As I remembered (I'm back at home now), the max break-in revs is 7000 rpm. So your occasionally hitting 6500 is no problem.

And as I mentioned -- I have done this break-in procedure and initial service twice now, once on a '22 C 400 GT and once on its replacement '23 C 400 GT -- you can get up to around 70 mph (113 kph) if you have a long, level, straight, by gently increasing the throttle for awhile, i.e., without exceeding the break-in rev limit.

So the break-in procedure is really not much of a hindrance, not much of a nuisance, on the C 400 bikes. (By contrast, the break-in procedure for my '23 Royal Enfield Meteor 350 specified max speeds per gear that are just above lugging the engine, and which I could almost walk faster in the lower gears.)

As with any new bike (or new car), you want to vary the speeds as much as possible, without pinning the throttle. And that varying is why they want you to twisties and hills, as much as possible during this period.

Last, as I mentioned, the URBAN setting on the TFT is the only way to show the revs, i.e., that display has only a speedometer and a tach. So just leave the bike in the URBAN setting during this period, because observing the tach will keep you from going crazy with the throttle.

And don't overthink this. 7000 is a pretty high limit, and all you have to do to avoid it is not twist the throttle all the way as quickly as you can.

Something came up.
When I start the bike, when all the lights turn on, every one of them works. But after the check ends, the green light that shows that the lights are on, turns off, even if the lights are on.
Is that a problem already?

EDIT:
I got it all wrong. It’s just the day light, that’s why the green light doesn’t show up, it was night when it wasn’t working.

 

[wspollack]

Something came up.
When I start the bike, when all the lights turn on, every one of them works. But after the check ends, the green light that shows that the lights are on, turns off, even if the lights are on.
Is that a problem already?

EDIT:
I got it all wrong. It’s just the day light, that’s why the green light doesn’t show up, it was night when it wasn’t working.

@tasosgds :

I'm not sure if I follow you completely. Are you satisfied that everything's working correctly now?

 

[XYZMETA]

In my experience it doesn't matter. First day I bought my bike I rode it home on a 140 mile trip straight out of the showroom. I even reached 84 miles and hour. After the bike was totally fine when I took it in for my first service. No issues detected. I say ride the hell out of it and enjoy it. I ride my bike aggressively and it survives. BMW make string bikes. Very good suspension

 

[tasosgds]

@tasosgds :

I'm not sure if I follow you completely. Are you satisfied that everything's working correctly now?

Yes all good. I misunderstood how it works.

I’ve already done 650km with it, I have to do it’s first service at 1000km, so it’s close.

I was thinking:

The closest Motorrad dealer is 5.30 hours away from me. So I have to invest a whole day to go and come back, and also take the ferry and petrol cost.

My thought is that I could take it to my local official Honda dealer/service, which is a 30 minute drive. I know that I lose the guarantee and that it’s a risk, but if you calculate the total cost of having to go to the official dealership at 1000km and then every 10.000km, I think it exceeds the cost of damage in case something happens, without the guarantee (unless something very serious).
What’s your opinion?

 

[wspollack]

Yes all good. I misunderstood how it works.

I’ve already done 650km with it, I have to do it’s first service at 1000km, so it’s close.

I was thinking:

The closest Motorrad dealer is 5.30 hours away from me. So I have to invest a whole day to go and come back, and also take the ferry and petrol cost.

My thought is that I could take it to my local official Honda dealer/service, which is a 30 minute drive. I know that I lose the guarantee and that it’s a risk, but if you calculate the total cost of having to go to the official dealership at 1000km and then every 10.000km, I think it exceeds the cost of damage in case something happens, without the guarantee (unless something very serious).
What’s your opinion?

Hoo boy, are you asking the wrong guy, regarding warranties, non-BMW service, and suchlike.

Recall, I'm the guy who had an entire bike replaced, under warranty, by BMW:

BMW Swapped Out My Used '22 C 400 GT For A Brand New '23 C 400 GT ... Free. [Part I of II]

Today, My Used 2022 C 400 GT Was Replaced By BMW With A Brand New 2023 C 400 GT. Free. What's In Your Warranty? If those statements pique your curiosity, and you have some free time, here's the tale, in chronological order. Note that it starts LAST year, almost a year and a half ago. [Note...

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And there's this recent thread https://www.bmw-scooters.com/index.php?threads/engine-problem.3115/

So I would not have anyone else do this service, but that's me.

But a lot of folks would call me overly cautious ... and they'd be correct. Here in the USA, we have laws that state that you don't have to have a specific dealer do work in order to maintain a warranty. All you have to do is document your work: save receipts for oil and filter, make take some photos (which are date-and-time-stamped in EXIF data), and keep a maintenance log, if you do it yourself. Or save the receipt from another, e.g., Honda, dealer, if that is the case.

So even though I could have my work done elsewhere, I want to maintain a clear, undisputable, relationship with my local BMW dealer. I am fortunate in that a large dealership (one of four of their stores) is about 25 minutes away from me. And I'm old (76) and creaky enough that I don't do this stuff myself anymore.

But I have no idea what the laws are regarding all this in Greece.

1) If your laws are similar, then I suppose you will have no problems, if something later happens.

2) Also, in terms of good news, is that the initial service is not very complicated, there's not much done. I have two of these "break-in" receipts now -- for the '22 and then for the '23 C 400 GT -- and they're almost identical; here's the receipt for my '23's first service:



So if you feel comfortable with your warranty laws, I suppose you could save all that time and travel (and probably some money). That's certainly your choice.

Me, I'm still a bit in shock regarding what happened to my '22, so I plan on always having a BMW shop do my service, even for tire replacements, etc. I want no one else working on that bike. But as I say, you're asking the wrong person.

Good luck in whatever you decide.

 

[jrk36]

Hello everyone, 2 days ago I finally received my new C400GT. Very happy about it so far.

Question:

For the first 1000km, what should my average RPM be, and what should the max be?
Let's say that I 'd like to travel a 10km distance, 100km/h speed limit, straight road mostly.
Is 5.000-5.500 RPM fine, or is it too high to ride constantly? If I want to perform an overtake, is it ok if I go up to 6.500 RPM?
If I want to drive a longer distance up to 50km, same rules apply?

Thanks in advance

I picked up my brand new C400GT 10 days ago, and had to ride it 500km home on its first ride.
The User Manual indicates stay under 7,000rpm and no long steady speed sections for the first 1,000km - i.e. vary the throttle. However, on my delivery trip I found 7,000rpm was hardly a handicap, with the bike capable of 120kph whilst keeping below that limit. I've now done 1,200km and the bike is running very smoothly.