$300 OEM CVT Belts for $100???

[Skutorr]

Yep, you read right. Now that some of you are biting the bullet and pulling BMW's hand out of you pocketbook (ass) by doing your OWN work, I thought you'd like this source I found.

The OEM belt lists for $279.23, and sells at every dealer I checked for...the same. You could TRY to cross over to a Polini or Mallossi belt (if available) but they might not work with the OEM variator, just the Mallossi/Polini ones. Tmaxes have the same problem...the factory belt is the best choice. (At HALF BMWs price...snicker)

But WHERE does the factory belt come from? A subcontractor, naturally. With Tmax, it's MITSUBOSHI (with an "O") out of Japan. The Tmax factory belt has a Yamaha name and part #, and ALSO says "Mitsuboshi".

If BMW didn't cheap out completely, the OEM manufacturer is the same for BMW as Yamaha, as those are the best belts out of Japan. Which leads to THIS:

http://www.carpimoto.it/en-US/Exhau...67-Mitsuboshi-Transmission-Belt-BMW-C600-.htm

Yep, a Mitsuboshi belt for the C-Series Scoots. Furthermore, Mitsuboshi only sells under their own label the belts they already make as OEM for OTHERS.

So, a Mitsuboshi belt from Carpimoto, a really good, reliable company in Italy, for about $110 to the US in 4 business days, shipping included. That's about a THIRD of the cost of the OEM with sales tax (at California rates) and probably FASTER than the DEALER can get it...

 

[TwoPort]

Do you think a BMW dealer would object related to warranties?

 

[justscootin]

When I replaced my belt a few weeks ago I got the original as I thought about the mollosi (glad I did not get it) when the belt came in that I paid a premium for the BMW original, the sticker on it with the part number was saying made in Taiwan and it was covering a sticker saying made in Japan. Both the stickers had the same part number. I asked the dealer about this but he had no answer except that the sticker was made in Japan (assholes) typical answers from a dealer. Next time I will get from the J A Pan company when out of warranty.

Do you think a BMW dealer would object related to warranties?

 

[wsteele]

So i had. BMW replace the belt and rollers check the chain replace the brake fluid and while they had it apart replace the air filter this came out to $901.00 ouch but looking at what the belt retails for and what the rollers go for and I don't have the place or the equiptment to do the job I guess it not as bad as I thought it would be. They also picked up and delivered the bike to my house there shop is about 50 miles away from my house.

 

[justscootin]

How many miles on your scooter

So i had. BMW replace the belt and rollers check the chain replace the brake fluid and while they had it apart replace the air filter this came out to $901.00 ouch but looking at what the belt retails for and what the rollers go for and I don't have the place or the equiptment to do the job I guess it not as bad as I thought it would be. They also picked up and delivered the bike to my house there shop is about 50 miles away from my house.

 

[exavid]

Great find Skutor! I'll order one to keep on hand. Thanks for the link.

 

[Skutorr]

Do you think a BMW dealer would object related to warranties?

Probably, as the US dealers' #1 priority seems to be $$$, not customer satisfaction. They want the WHOLE pie. Your sourcing of parts is just a step away from you doing the entire job, and then no $$$ for them.

Technically, they could do the labor portion, and just warrantee that and any other part they installed which is not directly related to the ones you supplied. But then, you would be living in EUROPE.

Dealers there routinely install aftermarket variators/belts, clutches, roller weights, etc. When some dealers have to replace the BMW clutches, they first try another OEM, and if (when) that doesn't cure the problem, install Dr. Pulley HIT clutches. There is even a VIDEO of German Dealership mechanics installing the Dr. Pulley clutch. They are comfortable doing so for a variety of reasons:

1.) They are experienced in repair & maintenance of MANY brands & models of scooters
2.) They already know and have had success with those aftermarket brands
3.) They cater to the CUSTOMERS, to keep them happy so they won't jump ship to Yamaha, Suzuki, Aprilia, Piaggio, etc.

 

[Skutorr]

When I replaced my belt a few weeks ago I got the original as I thought about the mollosi (glad I did not get it) when the belt came in that I paid a premium for the BMW original, the sticker on it with the part number was saying made in Taiwan and it was covering a sticker saying made in Japan. Both the stickers had the same part number. I asked the dealer about this but he had no answer except that the sticker was made in Japan (assholes) typical answers from a dealer. Next time I will get from the J A Pan company when out of warranty.

Yep! Instead of a Taiwanese Brand, BMW 's requirements were such that a Japanese-quality belt was needed. So, buy it from Mitsuboshi and then re-lable it...

What was the part #?

 

[Skutorr]

Ha! The Misuboshi Part# is 24827729767, the EXACT SAME as the BMW Catalog's factory part number! Take THAT, BMW!

 

[wsteele]

I got the parts that they replaced when they did the belt and rollers on my bike this week. I would say the belt is good for at least 24000 miles there was very little wear on the belt they returned to me. Looks almost new Also the rollers aside for a few carbon tracks the rollers have no flat spots on them, can't see any wear on them. I did the belt and rollers because I'm taking a week long trip and also wanted to see what was with the belt etc. I won't be replacing this belt until I have at least 40000 miles on the bike have about 16750 miles on it just before the work was done. The chain drive has 7 mm deflection on as of now. 15 mm is the limit so they say.

 

[Skutorr]

Remember, if you are changing the variator rollers yourself, or even just taking it apart to inspect, get the Dr. Pulley sliders & sliding pieces (guides). They give you a better top end, make you quicker off the line with improved gas mileage, cost LESS than the OEM parts, and they never wear out! What's not to like?

 

[exavid]

I replaced the OEM rollers on my second SW with Dr. Pulley 26gm sliders. They came with the guides though the original ones still looked good. The main difference on that bike with those particular sliders was an improvement in fuel mileage. The OEM set up was smooth about the same as the Dr. Pulley stuff but I got a couple miles per gallon better. A slight bit of reduction in off the line time but not enough to matter to me. I don't know how that translates from the Silverwing to the GT since they have dissimilar systems but should be similar in results.

 

[Skutorr]

Weird. I put the same 26gm Sliders in my brother's 2012 Swing, and it was quicker off the line and had better mid-range response...

 

[exavid]

Not too weird, both of us are basing our judgments on pretty subjective evaluations.

 

[Motorhead]

CVT Belt Savings - Thanks, Skutorr...!

I read this blog for the first time on Monday, and here it is Thursday - the belt arrived today! With shipping (at the current exchange rate) the total was $102.43 US. WOW!!! Are there other similar sources of OEM parts, e.g. rollers, clutch, etc, or can Carpimoto supply those also???

 

[exavid]

I decided to order a spare belt. I was afraid if I waited for my bike to need one I might miss out on the chance. I haven't been putting very many miles on my scooter lately because of a knee problem. About half an hour or so is about as long as I can do at one go. Hopefully a new knee in July will cure this problem. Thanks again Skutor for saving me a bundle!

 

[Skutorr]

You're welcome. Glad I could help!

 

[exavid]

Those Italians don't waste time. I got my new belt shipped via DHL yesterday. Very nice packaging, the belt comes in a sealed plastic bag with a hook on top of the package to make it easy to hang up without poking a hole in the bag.

 

[alice761]

I am buying this now thx for the information anyone got information on the dr pulley for the 650gt?

 

[Snowdog]

LOL, it's not $300. belts for $100. It's $100. belts for $100.