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CHIGEE AIO-5 Lite - Apple / Android CarPlay

Totally agree with you!

BMW dealerships can make $$$ on these upgrades. Cruise control would be nice to have.

I’m also finding they do not sell performance upgrades….Malossi, YSS, etc. More loss revenues.
 
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Totally agree with you!

BMW dealerships can make $$$ on these upgrades. Cruise control would be nice to have.

I’m also finding they do not sell performance upgrades….Malossi, YSS, etc. More loss revenues.
Yep, if we're talking exclusively about BMW parts -- sensors -- and BMW TFT programming with their factory-setting devices, I don't see why they wouldn't be interested in earning some shop fees. It MAY be a case in which the various shops don't know about this capability, just as some BMW dealerships don't seem to know that they have the capability of setting idle RPMs (you know what I'm talking about, that thread on adjusting the idle after software upgrades, right?). If so, this may be a case that someone just has to clue them in.

Regarding the Malossi type of upgrades, that's a different matter. Sure, they could get some money from shop work, but this would be a case in which they're going against the BMW engineers and factory products. So that would mess with the factory warranty, e.g., potentially affecting engine longevity and all sorts of other potential issues. So I could see why they wouldn't want to get into that realm of upgrades (perhaps unless a bike was past its warranty period).
 
I agree with Bill P. It should not be that difficulult for BMW to have added cruise control and TPMS. I never had either one until my last bike and while I did not use them a lot they were very nice features. Once you have had them you miss them. My challenger also had an electronic wihdshield. When I purchased it I thought it was a gimick. You set it and forget it. But I really loved that thing and used it all the time. When on the highway I always had it up all the way. But if it was hot riding in town I would lower it and let the air hit me in the face. None of these were deal breakers for me but would be really nice to have.
 
I’ve wired the Chigee to my C400GT for a quick test.

I now have Apple CarPlay!!

Next steps….
- connect my SENA 50S HK to iPhone 15 Pro
- test Spotify for audio test
- pair iPhone to bike for conflicts with Connected app
- install TPMS
- install CGRC-CAN - BMW integration module
Hi Im really interested in the Chigee for my C400GT but worried about the process of wiring It in. is it complicated and do you remember the steps.. how to get the canbus in etc.
 
Hi Im really interested in the Chigee for my C400GT but worried about the process of wiring It in. is it complicated and do you remember the steps.. how to get the canbus in etc.
There are 3 wires to connect into the C400GT - positive, negative and acc. The acc wire is the ignition trigger.
 
Here's a quick review of my CHIGEE AIO-5 Lite after using for a couple months in point form

BMW Connected
===========
- carry my iPhone 15 Pro in pocket but not connected to C400GT
- not mounted on bike due to possible camera damage from vibration
- using an $100 Motorola Android phone running BMW Connected App connected to wifi hotspot
- Sena 50S using mesh for communications with riders
- Sena only paired to BMW C400GT
- Spotify for music

Likes
******
- RTTI - BMW Real Time Traffic Information
- speed limit indicator
- navigation, music on TFT
- ability to use wonderwheel to adjust volume
- tracks ride and telemetry

Dislikes
********
- typically takes me about 5+ minutes to get all the electronics communicating with each other
- SENA 50S - complicated to balance/adjust volume(s) on my Sena with intercom and music
- need to pair to my iPhone 15 Pro then un-pair to avoid conflict with C400GT
- unable to initiate / receive calls while riding
- unable to read / respond to text messages
- no voice commands
- searching for POI is limited to what ConnectedRide provides
- 25% of the time, my SENA50S refuses to connect to the bike
- eventually connects though (PITA)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Chigee AIO-5 Lite
============
Likes
*****
- easy installation
- device is IP67 certified
- TPMS integrated into unit - alerts pop-up in CarPlay
- integrates nicely with BMW Wonderwheel to control Chigee
- receive/initiate calls via voice commands
- receive/respond to text messages via voice commands
- navigation via voice commands
- touch screen works with standard gloves
- forward / rear facing cameras
- blind spot monitoring
- future enhancement - integration to ODB2 connector
- easy to balance/adjust MESH intercom and music volumes
- technical support has been outstanding!
- traffic (RTTI) in Apple and Google maps
- music on my SENA 50S Harmon Kardon is substantially better
- connects 100% of the time over the last 2 months
- locks onto GPS satellites immediately

Dislikes
********
- costs
- lost ConnectedRide Rides tracking
- renders the TFT useless (for now - BMW specific version released in July 2024)
- unable to configure TPMS with individual alarms
- Chigee interface not intuitive when downloading videos and pictures onto smart phone

Solution for overcoming dislikes
- still carrying my Motorola Android phone and wifi hostspot for Ride details
- provides me with speed limit indicators and the name & direction of street travelled on
- IMO minor inconvenience

Please reach out to me if you have specific questions.
 
@byee :

Excellent reviews.

Regarding the TPMS, did you wind up being able to mount an external sensor up front somehow, or did you get internal sensors mounted, or what?
External TPMS sensor with 1mm of clearance.

I bought a replacement stem which I will machine down by 0.5mm for a bit more clearance
 
External TPMS sensor with 1mm of clearance.

I bought a replacement stem which I will machine down by 0.5mm for a bit more clearance
Barry, back in post 12 here you asked me about the new brake-pad thickness, and I sort of estimated it as 7.8mm, doing a cob-job measurement of the pad without removing it. I happened to be looking at the owner's manual last night, and noticed this, way near the end:

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So it turns out that I was off, by quite a bit.

In any case, what I wanted to mention to you, just in case you haven't noticed this: the valve core goes right to the top of the outer threads (the part that a plastic cap goes on). That's as it should be, in my experience. But I recall that when I was examining the spare part that I bought to, uh, examine it, there did not seem to be a lot of room in there to "lower" the valve core.

That is, if you make the assembly shorter -- to allow more room, for the sensor clearance vis-a-vis the caliper -- you will need to cut off some of those outer threads (where the stock plastic cap goes on). Cutting some inside-the-spoke threads will not do anything to improve sensor-vs-caliper clearance. And so, if you lop off some of the outermost threads, you will need to first move (i.e., screw in) the valve core lower into the assembly (or you will cut off its plunger thingy, too). And -- to get to my point here -- I vaguely recall that there isn't a lot of free space in the assembly to be able to lower the valve core.

Follow me on this?

So I just wanted to give you a heads up about all of this: 1) the actual measurement change of the brake pads (according to the owner's manual), and; 2) those stupid in-the-spoke Schrader assemblies are truly a pain in the butt (well, the front one, anyway -- I continue to have and use my FOBO on the rear rim).

Good luck, and please keep us posted.
 
Barry, back in post 12 here you asked me about the new brake-pad thickness, and I sort of estimated it as 7.8mm, doing a cob-job measurement of the pad without removing it. I happened to be looking at the owner's manual last night, and noticed this, way near the end:

View attachment 4648


So it turns out that I was off, by quite a bit.

In any case, what I wanted to mention to you, just in case you haven't noticed this: the valve core goes right to the top of the outer threads (the part that a plastic cap goes on). That's as it should be, in my experience. But I recall that when I was examining the spare part that I bought to, uh, examine it, there did not seem to be a lot of room in there to "lower" the valve core.

That is, if you make the assembly shorter -- to allow more room, for the sensor clearance vis-a-vis the caliper -- you will need to cut off some of those outer threads (where the stock plastic cap goes on). Cutting some inside-the-spoke threads will not do anything to improve sensor-vs-caliper clearance. And so, if you lop off some of the outermost threads, you will need to first move (i.e., screw in) the valve core lower into the assembly (or you will cut off its plunger thingy, too). And -- to get to my point here -- I vaguely recall that there isn't a lot of free space in the assembly to be able to lower the valve core.

Follow me on this?

So I just wanted to give you a heads up about all of this: 1) the actual measurement change of the brake pads (according to the owner's manual), and; 2) those stupid in-the-spoke Schrader assemblies are truly a pain in the butt (well, the front one, anyway -- I continue to have and use my FOBO on the rear rim).

Good luck, and please keep us posted.
Thank you for tte detailed information!

I was planning on machining about 0.5mm off the back side of the flange nut as well as maybe a couple of the threads off the value.

Before dining any that… I may just go visit a few tire stores to ask if they have something available with the same threading but shorter.
 
Thank you for tte detailed information!

I was planning on machining about 0.5mm off the back side of the flange nut as well as maybe a couple of the threads off the value.

Before dining any that… I may just go visit a few tire stores to ask if they have something available with the same threading but shorter.
Good luck with that, i.e., the tire stores. I fear this is a case of “BMW being BMW,” being weird and different, just because they can.

But I’ve been surprised, and wrong, before, so we’ll see.
 
The threading on the schrader valve stem is 10mm x 1.0 with an overall length of 21mm or 0.829"

I was able to find a brass stem from McMaster-Carr


Unfortunately, the overall length is 1" which will not for me.

The journey continues!
 
CHIGEE has announced their new AIO-5 Lite BMW edition which connects into the BMW ConnectedRide cradle.

The CHIGEE will also leverage the TFT as well.

 
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